Paid a visit to CHI Brass, this weekend

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Paid a visit to CHI Brass, this weekend

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For those unaware, CHI Brass is a Chicago-based mouthpiece company who primarily sells modernized mouthpieces based upon Helleberg designs popularized and modified by Arnold Jacobs and Floyd Cooley. Recently, CHI has created some new mouthpieces for certain individuals (artist models), and also sells mouthpieces from other brands as well.

I figured I'd reach out and see what they're all about, considering they're local to me, as I've heard nothing but good things about the Jacobs and Cooley models. On Saturday, I drove over there with a few horns, and a lot of free time.

Ian (the owner) is a wonderful host, holds a wealth of knowledge from his time studying, working, and playing in the Chicagoland area, and has a really neat collection of tuba related items, music, and memorabilia, as well as some outstanding instruments.

We started with my Eb, chatted about what I'd been playing on recently, and he suggested a few pieces from his CHI line, as well as some outliers. It was really nice to have a second (trained!) ear as I was playing these different pieces. Especially on a relatively new to me tuba. On this instrument, I played:

CHI IR-1 in both standard and A-shank

CHI Jacobs 2 in standard shank

CHI JR Helleberg in standard shank

Perantucci PT-66 in standard shank

I *really* liked the CHI IR-1, which is Ian's own design specifically for Eb tubas. Not only that, but it sounded the most clear, comfortable, and right for me and my particular tuba. Interestingly, the other CHI models we ruled out pretty quickly. They just didn't work. The Perantucci was a good #2, certainly gave the tuba some different qualities than the IR-1, but ultimately didn't sound as clear to me.

I'd been using only American taper pieces in this tuba, and was surprised that I felt most comfortable with the standard (.530) shank. That little extra gap must be helpful for me.

After that, I moved to my big horn. I've gone on a bit of a safari with this one since I've owned it. To my understanding, most 2165's want a true Euro shank mouthpiece. I'm stubborn, and have exactly ONE Euro mouthpiece which I've been saving for my Holton 345. Anyway, all that to say I have been sticking American shank pieces in that tuba. That's what I have.

With this one, I played:

CHI JS Helleberg in both standard and E-shank

CHI Cooley 3 in standard shank

CHI R Helleberg in standard shank

CHI Sergio Carolino prototype in E-shank

Pretty quickly, we agreed the JS Helleberg was a really good match for this tuba, particularly the Euro version. The Cooley 3 is nice, but that particular cup and rim aren't a match for me or my 2165. Similar story with the R Helleberg - the JS was the standout by far. Then, I joined the illustrious club of about 5 people who have tried the Sergio model prototype. That one is a winner too. Not available yet, but I'll pick one of those up when it is. I really liked it, and I'm not usually a heavyweight user.

Ian also has a pretty rad Nirschl 5v Eb tuba, which is really cool, and plays like a million bucks. It's very rare to see one Eb tuba in America, let alone TWO non-comps in the same room, and a Besson 982 in there too.

I decided to purchase both the IR-1 and the JS Helleberg. I suppose you could call me a CHI Brass "Artist" now. :teeth:

I always like meeting new people in our small world, sharing stories, showing off my unique tubas, and finding new stuff that works well for me. Great products, great designs, highly recommended. Thanks for reading.

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My new gear - CHI JS Helleberg, CHI IR-1

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With the beasts in my tuba room

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Sergio prototype - Rad design, plays nice with my 2165.

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Nirschl Eb, 2141 Eb. The Nirschl is physically larger, and set up exactly like his York model and 4/4 model. Great horn, and we both scored these for great prices.
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I met Ian down at the army workshop this year. Great guy! Sold me on a cooley 3. He had a really strong assortment of mouthpieces for me to try and really helped with finding which worked best.
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Ian is great. Finally met him in person at Rich Watson’s celebration of life and talked to him for 2 hours about tuba pedagogy and Rich’s approach.
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I bought the JS Helleberg and his adjustable cup mouthpieces right after they came out. I like them both, especially the JS Helleberg. Ian is a great guy to buy from as well as a good Facebook friend, with whom I interact just about every day.
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Being the mouthpiece junkie that I am, I'm curious about his products.

However, I have to admit, I'm always so reticent to go to a mouthpiece that boasts an inner diameter bigger than 33mm (~1.3 in). There are only a few on the list of items he makes that fit that roll. Either some appear to be a bit too big and others a bit too small.

I'm curious about the Geib but at 33.8 mm, I'm less enthused.
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