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As a Christmas present for myself I finally had a 5th installed on my G&P CC Tuba. The rotor is Voigt, it works very nicely and I wonder how I didn't do it before.
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Looks great!
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gionvil (Mon Jan 05, 2026 4:02 pm)
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Nice! Beautiful horn.
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Handsome.

I like the over-under routing of the circuit.
I did something fairly similar years and years ago with a fifth rotor on a front action York 19-in Bell E flat tuba.

I was sort of proud of myself, as you should very much be of the way you routed that one there.
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At the risk of (rudely) me-too-ing...(hopefully, interpreted as "sharing")...

Here's my similar thingie...I'm thinking I did this back in the 1990's...


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This E-flat York was originally a 3-valve (front-action).
I had a couple of small-bore (same bore) York-made sousaphones in the attic, and (though I had to do a few tricks to match up the spliced.on casing...back, then, male threads on casings were made separately and lead-soldered in place, which really helped a bunch), I believe it ended up looking pretty convincing (as looking as if it's oem)...so valves 1-2-3 (as well as the mouthpipe tube) are original (.656" - 16⅔mm bore).

The rotor and tubing are Miraphone 18mm bore.
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bloke wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 12:52 pm At the risk of (rudely) me-too-ing...(hopefully, interpreted as "sharing")...

Here's my similar thingie...I'm thinking I did this back in the 1990's...


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This E-flat York was originally a 3-valve (front-action).
I had a couple of small-bore (same bore) York-made sousaphones in the attic, and (though I had to do a few tricks to match up the spliced on casing), I believe it ended up looking pretty convincing (as looking as if it's oem)...so valves 1-2-3 (as well as the mouthpipe tube) are original.

The rotor is a no-engraving Miraphone 18mm bore.
Played on this one recently. It's pretty nice, and the work is really well done.
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@arpthark

What Blake likely means by "pretty nice" is that...

With the (not King / not 11/16") smaller bore original valve section, it's not as "free-blowing" as most other redone York/Holton E-flats, but plays as it did originally (other than now being fully chromatic).
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bloke wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 12:52 pm At the risk of (rudely) me-too-ing...(hopefully, interpreted as "sharing")...

Here's my similar thingie...I'm thinking I did this back in the 1990's...


Image

This E-flat York was originally a 3-valve (front-action).
I had a couple of small-bore (same bore) York-made sousaphones in the attic, and (though I had to do a few tricks to match up the spliced.on casing...back, then, male threads on casings were made separately and lead-soldered in place, which really helped a bunch), I believe it ended up looking pretty convincing (as looking as if it's oem)...so valves 1-2-3 (as well as the mouthpipe tube) are original (.656" - 16⅔mm bore).

The rotor and tubing are Miraphone 18mm bore.
Yes, it looks very similar, and really lovely. Even in yours it complements very well the look of the lower part of the instrument. I think that tubas should also somehow please the eye; I don't like tubas with a kind of "empty space" somewhere ( like some of the Rusk - cut horns: I had one years ago, and I really didn't like the lack of "balance" of the tubing which created a big empty space between the botton bow and the rest of the body) This is just a personal point of view, of course the "absolute beauty" in tubas doesn't exist, or it does??
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