Yet another ho-hum school repair

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Yet another ho-hum school repair

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- ain't shiny
- not in C
- not York
- no fifth valve

This was a squashed-flat ancient YBB-103 (y'all seem to love these, 'cause they're front-action) that belongs to a middle school in Memphis. Actually, it's the most popular public middle school in Memphis...whereby people stand in line at the schoo-boa - in case there is some space available.

There were/are a dozen beat-up/non-playable tubas in a practice room. (One of them is actually a 186).

This is a new account for us...(Actually, our kids went to this school. They walked through a wooden gate in our back yard right onto the campus.)

He (new band director there - either this year or last year, yet we've known him for quite a few years) gave us three to start out with. This was the worst of the three, and all of these first three are 3/4 Yamaha tubas. (One of them is a 105, and two of them are these 103's.) This one was the WORST of the three, so I started on it first. I started working on it after lunch (and - truth be told - after some screwing around after lunch) and finished it in time for a slightly late dinner.

All of the body parts were smushed and creased...bell, bottom bow, top bow, next bow, and next bow after that.
All of the slides were stuck badly.
None of the pistons would go up-and-down.
One of the stems was the wrong one (leftover from before the conversion someone did to the new-style valve guides), so that valve would not have depressed far enough...and an old finger button was busted off in that stem anyway.
The main tuning slide bow (barely larger than .600" bore) was a caved in.
The l-o-n-g/skinny mouthpipe tube was flattened bottom-to-top
Even the freakin' thumb ring was mashed in so much that not even a young scholar's thumb would have fit in it.

It's in pretty good shape, now. Everything works, and it's got that monstrous BLATT !!!! for which these are known.

I charged $500 for this one...I dunno whether I hit my $100/hour routine target/objective (minus typing up quotes, minus pick-up/delivery, minus waiting to be paid...BUT I always combine errands when doing pick-ups/deliveries), but I think I may have...as I just kept pluggin' at it.

I only un-soldered/re-soldered two slide tubes and one strap ring. Most of these school tubas LOOK like they need to be taken all apart, but I rarely take anything apart (via bloketrix™), and - per usual - I sat in my chair for 99% of the time I worked on it.

It's really in pretty decent shape, now, and - when resting on the bell (per may standards) - it doesn't rock back-and-forth.

Mrs. bloke is working on three flutes and a bassoon (bassoon done) for a private K-12 school near this public middle school.
Hopefully, we'll finish around the same time, and we can combine those two deliveries (maybe?) with one or two other Memphis errands.
(With all of the federal law enforcement over there now - via Trump) it's so odd to jump on the inner loop freeways whereby everyone is ACTUALLY going 55 mph (rather than 85 mph). Also, the murders seem to have dropped down to only one every other day or so, rather than multiples per day.


re: mismatched finger button:
I didn't happen to have but one of those super-vintage YEP-321 euphonium/YBB-103 finger buttons, but I DID find one (larger/intermediate plain-top diameter) which was used later on the 3/4 instruments. (When I picked it up, it only had one finger button...the one on the #2 piston stem.)

I didn't chem-clean this, but everything works well...
Oh yeah: Way down here, we can see the aurora borealis, tonight...' starting to show some purple up north...
Look over on that folding table...Mrs. bloke decided to bring those three flutes in here to work on them, rather than out in her workroom.

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This is the best my $90 android could do without turning off the sodium light on the front of the barn...


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two down, one (the last one is a top-action YBB-105) to go...

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last one is done...(the 105)

It was all beat up and valves/slides messed up but about HALF AS MESSED UP as the worst, one, and my repair quote was also half as much $$$...

...I'm getting better at doing these quotes...and better at adjusting them to the fact that money is worth half of what it was five years ago as well.

They'll probably hand me three more, but the next three need to get in line behind a bunch of high-end university-owned trombones, and three easy repairs for Soulsville Charter School (attached to the Stax Recording Studio Museum)...as well as two or three (sort of involved) customer repairs.

(There's some stuff I'd REALLY like to finish getting slicked out to SELL, but it's really difficult trying to get to those.)


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Reportedly, this band director at this school is in charge of his own budget.
Mrs bloke left with these an hour ago. It sure would be nice if she showed back up here with a check and three more to fix. Through that practice room door's glass window, I saw about ten or twelve in a pile...
Assuming there are enough other tubas at that school that everyone has something to play on, fixing all of those piled up in that practice room should surely give each one of those students a tuba to additionally use at home.
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He didn't hand us any more tubas today, but we did get a check (which beats the heck out of net 45), and he handed Mrs bloke two french horns and two euphoniums.

(I guess I'm just so accustomed to people dumping their tubas and sousaphones on me that it doesn't occur to me that they might have me some stuff that's easier to deal with.)
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I hope you get the 186 to fix up, it sounds like the winner in the room.
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prodigal wrote: Fri Nov 14, 2025 6:35 am I hope you get the 186 to fix up, it sounds like the winner in the room.
Who knows what kind of shape it's in. Looking through the practice room window, I could see that it was shiny but I couldn't tell how beat up it was or whether anything was missing. I have encountered a couple of 186 tubas that belonged to schools - both in the past five years or so - that actually we're not worth repairing. (By the time they got a new bell and a whole bunch of beyond-routine rotor work, the cost would be about the same as finding a pretty good used 186 for sale somewhere, and - had there been requests to refinish them - that would have absolutely defined absurdity.)
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Would they be worth it for parts for you?
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Also, school districts always buy (stupidly) new instruments. The only way that we get golden oldies is if they are donated.
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prodigal wrote: Fri Nov 14, 2025 1:09 pm Would they be worth it for parts for you?
I have a whole bunch of miraphone levers and other stuff.

When the bells, mouthpipes, and rotor bodies are trashed, that pretty much leaves the bows and the levers.

I've gone through all but one 186 that was in the attic. The last one is going to be the nicest one. I did some mixing and matching and ended up with four really nice rotors, a nice set of s arm linkage, and a brand new bell. I can't get to anything that I have for sale because of all the repair work... and I'm only interested in selling this stuff off "as is" if I find out I have pancreatic cancer or something like that.
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I like the S arm linkages on mine, tough and cool looking. My old one had the crappy late 1990s plastic linkages. They were wearing epoxy when I put it up for sale 7 years ago.

What would define an unrollable bell?
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prodigal wrote: Fri Nov 14, 2025 1:18 pm What would define an unrollable bell?


I'll do whatever someone tells me that they want done - if it's not absolutely stupid, but bells loaded up a spider cracks or actual long tears are bells that I sort of consider to be trash.

The taper isn't quite right, but I've used the salvageable straight portion of 186 bells to convert two-piece recording King bells to upright bells. It would probably work out better for those Reynolds recording bells, but they are much less common.
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