Old case repair attempted

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Yeah, the soft funky undercoating is superior, because the hard stuff cracks and allows salt water to leak in underneath it, but I'm not talking about cars or trucks; I'm talking about coating a wooden instrument case.
... back off topic: I wonder if powder coating a truck bed would be better than truck bed liner, but I don't know anything about that either.
also off topic: Making pickup truck beds out of aluminum to increase gas mileage is a big joke, other than those who drive pickup trucks only for the way they look (maybe along with a cowboy hat and a Marlboro cigarette in their mouth?), because we know what's going to happen to aluminum when someone actually uses an aluminum bed to haul things.

All I'm saying is that my experience with truck bed liner on wood cases is that it's not thick enough rather than being too thick.

I'm not going to use it for that reason and your belief is the opposite, and you're not going to use it for the opposite reason.

...so we agree that truck bed liner isn't the best thing to use.
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Reading your posts, and remembering some things I've seen car guys do; I just had a crazy idea for finishing the exterior. I'm not going to describe it because I dont know if it will work. If it does, it will be pretty cool and hilarious. If not, then I'll just paint it black and be done. Thanks a bunch.
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Progress report..

Today I finished fiberglassing the seams on the interior. Nice and sturdy now.

Last week... I worked around the exterior seam of the case half that I had fiberglassed before, with wood filler to fill in the gaps and smooth the edge up. This worked out well enough.

While helping my son dig through my extensive stash of old spray paints for his art project, I found several cans of various old auto undercoating paints. So I lightly sanded a section of the bottom of the case and sprayed it with a can of rubberized undercoating. I wasn't fond of the results. 1st, after several days, the coating doesnt really harden. It stays soft and can be rubbed off easily. 2nd, places where the case had previously been duct taped, took on a glossy finish. I'm thinking the rubberized is the issue. Some of the other cans are not rubberized so I'll give that a shot. Also, ill try removing the dried up tape residue with some sort of chemical remover like 'goo gone.'

This evening, I was able to cut and glue in some carpet padding. Hopefully this is thin enough to not interfere with the fit. Also, while shopping yesterday I came across some velvety bedding on sale for $10. I think it will work well enough to replace the original velvet. I was going to try to reuse the original, but some of it really got trashed when I pulled it out. I'm ok with $10. For a replacement.

I tried to upload some more pics, but as usual they wouldn't upload to imgur.... I think I'm going to need a new phone real soon.
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As you know, for most everything laptops don't require apps.

For those of you who have tablets, do you have to upload apps to do stuff on those, or are they more like laptops?

I have pulled out lining and fiberglassed wood cases from the interior, but (original) Gorilla Glue sorta made me rethink that strategy, as it is so strong that it holds the two thin wood edges together better than they were held together originally, and - to temporarily hold the edges together while it is setting up - I use a staple gun (requiring careful aim with the thin wood, obviously) or duct tape.

Interior fiberglassing may well be stronger (and surely stronger than when new), but (again) I'd wager that Gorilla Glue is as strong as wood case seams were when new, and - if the interior lining rates at least a B- (or even if D- is good enough for any particular individual) - it can all stay in place.

HEADS UP:

Those brand new "wood" cases (same family owns the company, but they have been made in Costa Rica - rather than in the USA - for quite a few years) are not wood. They are pressed board.
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Uh, disagree . . .
A browser is an application
A word processor is an application.
etc.
etc.

Both tabs and laptops come with some baseline stuff, but in either case, it's often crap . . .

Myself, I don't feel much difference.
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Everything that has to do with connecting to the internet spies on us, but dozens and dozens of additional apps on phones are dozens and dozens more spies.

I went into my so-called Google account and turned everything off that I could find, and then did research to find more things to turn off, but I'm not naive enough to trust that I actually turned off anything. The fact that YouTube notices that I turned stuff off tells me that they're still spying on me. Otherwise, how would they know?

I really wish I had the commitment to the learning curve to use a Lenox OS
possibly less spying.
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ok. uploading pics via my desktop computer. seems to have worked better. let me know.

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i had a chance to work on this project a little more today. got the interior of one side done.

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Pre H.N.White, Cleveland Eb 1924ish (project)
Conn Sousaphone, fiberglass 1960s? (Project)
Olds Baritone 1960s?
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The Gorilla glue seems to be working really well. It's very tacky and gives you a good amount of time to shift things around before it sets up. we'll see in the long term how well it holds up. I picked up the tape for around the seams of the case. It's a cloth based tape so we'll see how that goes too.

When I pulled the original interior out there was next to no padding. I used some carpet padding I had laying around. This made it too tight for the horn lengthwise so i decided to leave it out at the bottom bow end. I'd rather make sure the bell is good because it will likely stand on the bell end while in the case. Good Progress so far.
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Meinl Weston 2145 CC
King Symphonic BBb circa 1936ish
Pre H.N.White, Cleveland Eb 1924ish (project)
Conn Sousaphone, fiberglass 1960s? (Project)
Olds Baritone 1960s?
Hoping to find a dirt cheap Flugabone
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