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Conn baritone valvectomy/replacement

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I got this Conn baritone and extra valveset on eBay for a good price/package deal:

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It looked like there was enough there to make a viable instrument out of, and it looked like both were Conn, so when I got offered a deal from the seller, I took it.

The extra valveset was from a different era than the existing valveset on the horn (horn = diamond flanges, extra valveset = round flanges... I forget off-hand which one is older), and I couldn't just drop the extra pistons in -- diameter was slightly too large, so I decided to swap the entire valveset out instead of doing a bunch of lapping. Some parts were juuuust different enough that quite a bit of fudging and futzing had to be done. There was no 3rd valve slide on the donor valveset, but there was one on the original horn, and the distance between the tubing legs on the original slide was slightly too small for the donor female tubing, which meant that the crook was all splayed and not parallel. I had to trim some braces to get that alignment correct. The taper on the tube leading from the 3rd valve to the small end of the main tuning slide was also different, and the small end of the existing main tuning slide would not fit in the donor valveset, so I had to pull that tapered piece from the original and paste it on to the donor. After quite a bit of fussing with braces and getting slides parallel, I finally ended up with a viable and usable instrument. Less than $100 and a couple hours in the shop, not too bad, and I am generally pleased with the result. I will sell this horn to a local middle school after I get a case for it.

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joke (sort of)

Someday, you'll learn to not brag about all the backflips you had to do to turn nothing (which cost about nothing) into something.
You'll simply end up with something, do some more to make it look nice, only talk about how nice it currently is...and flip it.

ie.

"This 188 was a piece of crap before I managed to bring it back from the dead and make it look like nothing ever happened to it, so now I want one of you to pay $7,800 for it."

(etc.)

:laugh: :thumbsup:
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Yes. First $2,000 takes this thing!

(But really, if anybody wants it for $150, have it.)
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arpthark wrote: Fri Aug 01, 2025 2:55 pm Yes. First $2,000 takes this thing!

(But really, if anybody wants it for $150, have it.)
That's a hell of a bargain. :bugeyes:

It's going to be a bare minimum of an hour (probably more) of your time to get that thing boxed up, labeled, and shipped, not to mention talking to potential buyers and finally collecting money from one of them.

Pre-2021 money, you're asking about 90 bucks for that thing.
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Hey I recognize the eBay floor picture... I was tempted for about 5 minutes... the seller is an easy drive front me.. He currently has an Olds Super trombone at a great practice...

I did buy a Blessing matching baritone from him.. with the good German valves.. Came as a box of parts.. but it was only $45. Is a great player now... my daughter calls it the "fuglytone"... I learned a lot making new braces for it... and sticking out all back together.

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I took some Blessing marching baritones in trade (for repairs) from a private school about three hours south of me.

The instruments they bought to replace them are shinier but - of course - inferior. A couple of these are actually still pretty shiny.

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