How different or similar is the stainless steel Tommy Johnson thing to the old Marcinkiewicz "N" mouthpiece?tofu wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:40 pm depends on the horn / genre of music / venue
For different tuba(s):
Bloke solo #2 rim
Bloke Imperial #2 rim
LM-10 Tommy Johnson with a Houser rim
Schilke 67 (old style) modified
Wick I and Wick II (both old style)
For Sousaphone & Helicon
Kelleyberg
Bloke Solo with Lexan rim
What mouthpiece do you use?
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Re: What mouthpiece do you use?
Re: What mouthpiece do you use?
Mt Vernon Bach 18 and a Bloke Solo.
Terry Stryker
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
Gebr. Alexander New 163C, Vintage 163C, Vintage 163BBb
Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
A plethora of others....
Mirafone 186C, 186BBb, 184C, 186C clone
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Amati 481C
Lyon & Healy 6/4
Kane Stealth tuba
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Re: What mouthpiece do you use?
I don’t know personally - never had or used the Marcinkiewicz (if I recall N4) although my understanding is that there is some difference. I’d buy one to see if it was available super cheap, but the Imperial and LM-10 work so well in my 185 I can’t believe the N4 would be an improvement. I’ve got the original LM-10 and it was supposedly designed (or input given) by TJ and what he used in his 185 - I seem to vaguely recall he was prior to that using an N4 - so I assume that was the basis for the LM-10. I can see why he liked it in that horn - especially for recording or solo purposes. Interestingly the Imperial works very well in my 185 too, but it is a very different horn with the Imperial vs the LM-10. The Imperial gives it a much more Contrabass sound and the articulation is superb - it works well for concert band settings and what I use in it 70% of the time. Where as the LM-10 gives it a much more bass tuba sound & color. It’s also louder with lessor articulation vs the Imperial. Jim Self has a 185 - I never thought to wonder what he uses in it and there is another studio guy out the west coast who uses a 185 for recording work whose name escapes me - don’t know what he uses in it either.bloke wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:57 pmHow different or similar is the stainless steel Tommy Johnson thing to the old Marcinkiewicz "N" mouthpiece?tofu wrote: Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:40 pm depends on the horn / genre of music / venue
For different tuba(s):
Bloke solo #2 rim
Bloke Imperial #2 rim
LM-10 Tommy Johnson with a Houser rim
Schilke 67 (old style) modified
Wick I and Wick II (both old style)
For Sousaphone & Helicon
Kelleyberg
Bloke Solo with Lexan rim
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Re: What mouthpiece do you use?
Switched it up a little lately: I've gone much shallower on the BBs and deeper on the Eb
1) BBb Sousaphone and Conn 20J - Giddings Jon Gross
2) Meinl Weston 20 -Bobo Symphonic
3) Eb Sousaphone and Holton Franken-Eb - Bach 18... Tried it out based on some old posts from @Bob Kolada... really helps pull the sharp upper register down.
1) BBb Sousaphone and Conn 20J - Giddings Jon Gross
2) Meinl Weston 20 -Bobo Symphonic
3) Eb Sousaphone and Holton Franken-Eb - Bach 18... Tried it out based on some old posts from @Bob Kolada... really helps pull the sharp upper register down.
As amateur as they come...I know just enough to be dangerous.
Meinl-Weston 20
Holton Medium Eb 3+1
Holton Collegiate Sousas in Eb and BBb
Conn 20J
and whole bunch of other "Stuff"
Meinl-Weston 20
Holton Medium Eb 3+1
Holton Collegiate Sousas in Eb and BBb
Conn 20J
and whole bunch of other "Stuff"
Re: What mouthpiece do you use?
On a Yamaha BBb Neo - Mercer and Barker Cattanach (MB5) strangely enough.
Low parts in Brass Band, but also in 10 piece/orchestra etc. Good all rounder for BBb.
Low parts in Brass Band, but also in 10 piece/orchestra etc. Good all rounder for BBb.
Andy Cattanach, UK
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Foden's Band, Intrada Brass Ensemble.
Yamaha Neo BBb x 2 (2011 and 2022), B+H 3v Imperial BBb.
Yamaha YBL613H Bass Trombone.
Mercer and Barker MB5 Cattanach, M+B 1.5BT Mouthpieces.
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Foden's Band, Intrada Brass Ensemble.
Yamaha Neo BBb x 2 (2011 and 2022), B+H 3v Imperial BBb.
Yamaha YBL613H Bass Trombone.
Mercer and Barker MB5 Cattanach, M+B 1.5BT Mouthpieces.
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Re: What mouthpiece do you use?
Bach 7 since the 1980's.
Mark
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Re: What mouthpiece do you use?
I only play a JP377 compensating Eb. I use a Mercer and Barker MB3 for brass band and a Kellyberg for concert bands or anywhere I need easier/more resonant low register.
Packer/Sterling JP377 compensating Eb; Mercer & Barker MB3, Kellyburg; for sale: Conn Monster Eb 1914, Fillmore Bros 1/4 Eb ca. 1905 antique, Bach 42B trombone
Re: What mouthpiece do you use?
I'm just experimenting between my old DEG ME5 that I used to use on my old 186 and the Mirafone 2 that came with my horn. I think the answer for me might lie somewhere in the middle, but my chops ain't what they used to be, so I'll work with what I have before getting a blokepiece.
1960 186CC
B&S 5099/PT-15
Cerveny 653
A bunch of string instruments
B&S 5099/PT-15
Cerveny 653
A bunch of string instruments
Re: What mouthpiece do you use?
Laskey 28G......... for my 1970 Miraphone 186 BBb. I also have a 28H that I bought a few years before I could get my hands on the 28G. Scott (Laskey) had told me to get the 28G for the Miraphone rotary valve, as it gives a little more "pop" to the beginning of notes (His description). I've also noticed that I get a better sound, along with a bit more comfort for a longer period of time.
