Oct 2025 news: OG Ultimate (both shanks), OG Ultimate threaded "underpart" (both shanks), Shallowberger (standard shank)

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Oct 2025 news: OG Ultimate (both shanks), OG Ultimate threaded "underpart" (both shanks), Shallowberger (standard shank)

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Scroll to the last/recent post for updated info.

The threaded version of OG Ultimate has been scanned and its geometry (very subtly) justified to be cut to accept threaded rims (ie. to insure that the stainless rims will articulate smoothly at the interior juncture), the (threaded) prototype of it will be here for me to test soon, and we've put in quantities for each of the mouthpieces (in the title of this thread) to the shop...

...so those of you who've requested being on the list for this/that/the-other/"both versions of"/"both shank sizes of"/etc...probably in a two or three (a few short) weeks or so, I'll be asking you folks to pay, but (as in the past) I'm trying to only asking you to pay shortly before mouthpieces are plated and ready to ship out.

...so (thank-you) please be looking for requests to pay sometime in June. and mouthpieces (??) a couple-or-a-few-weeks after that.

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Doing the "mouthpiece thing" is sorta fun. :teeth: (It beats whoopin' up on and hostlin' nasty ol' torn-up sousaphones! :red: )

Eventually (as sales cover new r&d), we're hoping to have plated brass threaded "underparts" of the other two (or three) cup profiles as well (which would be accepting the steel threaded rims).

Feel free to message or email with questions, issues, or to be added to a list.
(Email is easier, as this "forum" inbox is sorta full, and I always have to delete one to read one.) :smilie8: :thumbsup:
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Re: NEWS: OG Ultimate (both shanks), OG Ultimate threaded "underpart" (both shanks), Shallowberger (standard shank)

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I was not so fond of this piece on my Yamaha, preferring my Warburtion.

Tonight that changed. For whatever reason I decided to use it in that tuba tonight and WOW! This is my new mouthpiece for *all* my tubas. I love it in the Kurath, the Holton and the Yamaha. (Still have not plugged it into the 196 as I *really* like the Symphony model I have for it.)

Okay, so the intonation was weird with it, with the 3rd partial G being sharp! Also, all my valve slides had to be pulled more than normal. (This happened with the Kurath, too.) Once I had things dialed in it all was very simpatico for me.

But that G was bugging me. Now, this may sound harebrained, but shimming it with paper to make the piece seat where my Warburtion (an E shank) sits cleaned that G up nicely. Some of the slides I had to pull went back in about halfway to where they normally are set. (I experience more or less the same changes on this tuba when I move from the E Warburton to the A Warburtion.)

BOOM…

Now I cannot wait for the E shank OGP. I was stoked to get another A shank for use on the Holton 345, but now I like it even more as the sound I get from the Yamaha is much more York-like, with a lot of upper overtones and color that the Warburton does not give me.

I. Can't. Wait.

Light a fire under that guy's butt, please!
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Re: NEWS: OG Ultimate (both shanks), OG Ultimate threaded "underpart" (both shanks), Shallowberger (standard shank)

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He's back from vacation, just fwiw.

I tried to get him to make the prototype threaded underpart in clear Lucite (for fun) but he says he can't currently, even though I saw some chunks of it in a bin. I believe it's complicated, and involves stuff that I don't understand about cutting various types of materials.

Clear lucite, fwiw, is easier to polish out to look like glass, in comparison to clear lexan.

The OGU spanks the stubby Holton BB-flat... It makes me chuckle. I don't think anyone at any gig I play cares one way or the other (or the other or the other or the other for that matter), as long as I play soft enough, loud enough, in tune enough, and early enough in the beat.
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Re: NEWS: OG Ultimate (both shanks), OG Ultimate threaded "underpart" (both shanks), Shallowberger (standard shank)

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@bloke do you have a price yet on the threaded rim? Just curious.. probably go to stay on the just for the one piece... but it might be worth considering.
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Re: NEWS: OG Ultimate (both shanks), OG Ultimate threaded "underpart" (both shanks), Shallowberger (standard shank)

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gocsick wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 8:12 am @bloke do you have a price yet on the threaded rim? Just curious.. probably go to stay on the just for the one piece... but it might be worth considering.
LOL. I've received two or three texts from the machinist, but no price on the threaded thing.
Based on logic and a bit of hope, I would like 😐 to see that my cost would be a little bit less than a complete mouthpiece..(??)
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Re: NEWS: OG Ultimate (both shanks), OG Ultimate threaded "underpart" (both shanks), Shallowberger (standard shank)

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Just about ALL of this stuff...

- OG Ultimate one-piece silver-plated brass - standard shank
- OG Ultimate one-piece silver-plated brass - euro shank

- OG Ultimate threaded for stainless steel rim (silver-plated brass) - standard shank
- OG Ultimate threaded for stainless steel rim (silver-plated brass) - euro shank

- Shallowberger (cimbasso or high-range F tuba mouthpiece) - standard shank
- Shallowberger (cimbasso or high-range F tuba mouthpiece) - SMALL ("English"/bass trombone) shank

is temporarily sold out. :smilie8: 👍 / :huh: 👎


This time, I'm not going to ask for a "list" for pre-orders, but I'm just about ready to ask my machine shop guy to run some more of most all of these...just in case some of you have been thinking about trying any of these, but missed out on the first two runs.


IF YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED A GOLD PLATED MOUTHPIECE DUE TO ALLERGIES, I recommend the "threaded for stainless still rims" version of the OG Ultimate. If you have a NICKEL allergy, I might go EVEN FURTHER (hey...I ain't no M.D.) and ask me for a titanium coated (looks like gold plating) stainless steel rim.
(Yes, titanium blasted onto stainless steel can be made in all sorts of colors, but I only mess with the color that looks like gold plating.)

Currently, there are NO plans for a threaded-for-rims Shallowberger, but I DO have a silver-plated brass threaded-for-rims Symphony model (in-between shank size only - sort of a Perantucci/Miraphone/Schilke shank size).

I'm really loving the OG Ultimate with my 6/4 instrument (and yeah, it's not like most of yours, being BB-flat and .835" bore rotary), YET not all that much different. I suspect most of you would lreally like it. I offers a really clear sound (yet still quite broad...NOT some "shallow-cup-on-a-big-tuba" type of solution, and - with a conservative-sized throat and exit bore - it's ALSO not a vacuum cleaner (though NO sacrifice of "horsepower".

If you've been working too hard with some other mouthpiece with your 6/4 instrument, might the OG Ultimate take a few days involving growing accustomed...?? It might, but my immediate reaction was to giggle just a little bit (ie. Wow...This sure is easy...INCLUDING legato playing.)
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