Kanstul 33S

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Re: Kanstul 33S

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Tubajug wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:19 pm Thanks for posting a picture of yours, @donn . It does look like that bottom inner bow is different.

Is your 5th valve a useable flat whole step? Like I said, mine is an odd length...
It's fine.

[edit] But who cares, since it isn't the same model at all. Note that the valve combinations described below are for Eb tuba. [/edit]

Looks like yours has a lot of tubing. If it's for example around a minor third - 33 inches? - you might be able to survive with some alternative combinations. Like, Ab 1_3_5, G _2_45, Gb 1__45 (sharp), F _2345, E 12345.
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I brought home a Kanstul euphonium to test drive when the 2010 ITEA was in Tucson. It was so horribly out of tune with itself that I was astonished. That was, in my opinion, a design flaw, and it was the one they brought to be a demo. So your problem does not surprise me.
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I suspect that everything was so rushed towards the end that they brought things to market before they were dialed in, or even consistently made over a several same model span, ie quite a bit of variation from horn to horn.
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Yikes. Holton 345’s weren’t that bad as far as overall design differences! At least in the main body…
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Kanstul isn't that bad, either. I have to confess to a senior moment here - my tuba isn't a 33-S, it's a 66-S Eb. These two tubas look more similar than they probably even should. The 33-S is BBb. So ... never mind. Sorry!
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Well that explains a lot! Beautiful tuba!
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Haha! Having it in Eb would make a difference! :laugh:

I appreciate your input, though!
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I know this is late for a reply but here's thought. Instruments which have a leak in the main bugle will play sharp and that COULD be the problem you have. Testing for this is not something most techs ever have to deal with so detection and repair of the leak is almost never considered.

I removed the bell from the tuba of a well known German maker and found that the lead around the tenon varied in thickness from over half in inch to none. Fixing that once you find it requires courage because it will never look "pretty" again.
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