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I just saw that one of my studio mates from Ithaca College, Andy Smith (not the Andy Smith in Chicago), is opening an instrument sales and repair shop in Washington state called Rose City Instruments. What is interesting is he is a Sierman retailer. I've seen Sierman mentioned a few times here. If I am not mistaken, he's the first retailer for Sierman in the US. Anyway check it out.


https://www.rosecityinstruments.com

$12,000 for a pt-6 clone???

Why not get a used Pt-6 and save $2-5,000!?

Hope the Long Island Brass logo on the website means they'll have those pieces in stock, there's nowhere good to demo low brass mouthpieces in the PNW

LargeTuba wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 4:22 pm $12,000 for a pt-6 clone???

Why not get a used Pt-6 and save $2-5,000!?

I'm seeing used PT6Ps at 11,500 now...

It could very well be a MAP price?

Given what tariffs are doing to prices of these things, and the lack of Pt6's available used, I don't think it's an unreasonable price.

Interesting they cloned the HB2P... That could be cool!

Sousaswag wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 6:25 pm Interesting they cloned the HB2P... That could be cool!

I love the fact they named it "Skylark" - I think naming tubas after old cars could be cool. Now excuse me while I go practice on 6/4 Volare'

jtuba wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 6:14 pm [quote=LargeTuba post_id=122324 time=<a href="tel:1769984549">1769984549</a> user_id=121]
$12,000 for a pt-6 clone???

Why not get a used Pt-6 and save $2-5,000!?

I'm seeing used PT6Ps at 11,500 now...

It could very well be a MAP price?
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Pricing from the tuba showroom is $14050 for a PT6P

https://www.tubashowroom.com/instruments/3198/

much ado over nothing?

Isn't every single model marked "out of stock"?

bloke wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 9:06 pm much ado over nothing?

Isn't every single model marked "out of stock"?

They continually get new horns in. However you frequently see used models for sale, only a couple thousand less, due to this. Though I has had concerns about consistency from horn to horn of the same model, they are great instruments. I’m not sure I could ever justify suggesting or buying a Chinese copy of one that is the same price as one in good, used, condition. But then again, testing a new one for someone in Washington state couldn’t be any further…

bloke wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 9:06 pm much ado over nothing?

Isn't every single model marked "out of stock"?

Technically the store is launching this month, I believe. He told me has has the firs tuba (or tubas) arriving shortly.

Yeah my assumption was that they are not yet IN stock -- the web site is up but the stuff isn't there yet. And even the web site isn't complete, because the button that says search the products returns the same page for everything. It will get finished soon, I'm sure, and meanwhile gives everybody something to talk about.

Hi all,

Thanks so much for reaching out and the conversation about things. Yes, I have launched the business and product is on order. I am anticipating having a shipment of Sierman tubas and euphoniums in stock and on display at the US Army Band Tuba Euphonium Workshop. The way I have the system set up right now, if something is out of stock, it still shows on the store, as I'm trying to show what I am offering beyond what is in stock at time. Regarding pricing - Sierman isn't like your typical manufacturer in China. They have brought in consultants, including Roland Szentpali, Dan Perrantoni, and others to help them make better quality instruments. Additionally, they make a lot of parts and instruments for many manufacturers that we consider to be higher grade product, versus some other places as well. Finally, if you haven't seen what tariffs and the cost of silver and gold are doing to things, please go read about that as well.

Yes, there will be a shipment of Long Island Brass Company mouthpieces in the showroom by March. I have a list of what is coming and will be adding those to the site as well. My goal is that those will be in stock and available for our display at the NWRTEC in Boise. I do believe I am the first dealer on the West Coast to offer these mouthpieces.

Thanks for the patience on everything, I am a one-man show doing this, setting up a repair bench, playing 2 nights a week and conducting 2 nights a week. It's truly a joy and honor to be able to do this, I've had this dream of having a business like this since for over 20 years, and I'm here to help you in anyway I can.

Thanks very much, please feel free to reach out to me directly with any questions or concerns you might have.

Are there (m)any independent reviews of their tubas? All I've seen is Roland Szentpali, who is sponsored by the company.

Good luck with the store!

A few things about Sierman:

1) I don't understand their logo, "WangLing & Since 2011". I can only assume it was started by two people, one named WangLing, and the other named... "Since 2011."



2) I have a lot of questions about this F tuba.



3) Google was confused as well. In part, because of my poor spelling.


4) Which all leads me to believe that this place must be hot, they don't need a large ad, or even correct spelling!

LargeTuba wrote: Sun Feb 01, 2026 4:22 pm $12,000 for a pt-6 clone???

Why not get a used Pt-6 and save $2-5,000!?

I just checked again, and it looks like the Sierman 'Sonata' (Nirschl 4/4 CC copy) is the one listed for $12k, and the Sierman 'Galaxy' (B&S PT6p copy) is listed for $10.7k

The tubas look nice; we will see how they pan out over time

bort2.0 wrote: Mon Feb 02, 2026 9:37 pm Good luck with the store!

A few things about Sierman:

1) I don't understand their logo, "WangLing & Since 2011". I can only assume it was started by two people, one named WangLing, and the other named... "Since 2011."



2) I have a lot of questions about this F tuba.



3) Google was confused as well. In part, because of my poor spelling.


4) Which all leads me to believe that this place must be hot, they don't need a large ad, or even correct spelling!

Have you ever seen the Twoba made from a MW 2250 for Roland? Looks like he wanted the same from.his new maker

https://www.lastrowmusic.com/twoba-a-hu ... -soloists/

It wasn't written by Wagner, Bruckner, or Blazhevich, but Hoagie Carmichael wrote a ballad called Skylark a dozen years before there was a Skylark car, and it's a damn good song.
Nelson Riddle always really embellished the lead sheet chord changes, but always in an amazingly good way.



Andy: in spite of all the apparent obstacles, worked really hard to run the Conn-Selmer parts department as well as Sonya had.

new tubas: I don't need any.

bags: I'm not as physically strong as I was 30 or 40 years ago - and cases weigh a lot, but I'm tired of "how did that happen?" dents.

AI pictures of tubas: None that I've seen anywhere are ready for prime time.

You'll get more hits on Sierman using a different search engine, e.g. DuckDuckGo, Qwant, etc.

Found this (Chinese Youtube):
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1E7Q9Y ... 5951457950

Thank you Bloke for the link to "Skylark".

As I live just across the river form Vancover, WA, I am happy to hear of a new store in the area. I will check it out when there is something to check out.

CCC

jtuba wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 8:19 am Have you ever seen the Twoba made from a MW 2250 for Roland? Looks like he wanted the same from.his new maker

https://www.lastrowmusic.com/twoba-a-hu ... -soloists/

see: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1D2aoHmJHf/