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jtuba wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 8:19 am Have you ever seen the Twoba made from a MW 2250 for Roland? Looks like he wanted the same from.his new maker

https://www.lastrowmusic.com/twoba-a-hu ... -soloists/

Definitely had not seen that before, thanks for sharing! I don't particularly like it, but I do respect the engineering involved in designing this. I think I'm just a purist, and prefer using the "normal thing" for everything. Because as soon as the new thing comes out, the performance has the potential to become too much about the new thing.

Or, maybe I just don't like tuba solos.

Relevant to the original post, perhaps it's not the most appropriate category-level photo for "F tuba".

The old Wisemann 500 PT6P copies were quite good (with the exception of valve cap threading). I wonder how these stack up?

FWIW Linda Ronstadt hired Nelson Riddle to produce a series of American Songbook pieces for her trio of albums in the mid eighties. Skylark is one of my favorites on that effort. She does it very well.

I assume from the discussion that the store is in Vancouver despite the Rose City name, which I've always associated with Portland. I'll visit the shop next time I'm through the area which might be this spring. How bout listing an address?

He made the right choice in Vancouver, versus Donald Duck Land (Portland).

Charlie C Chowder wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 11:07 am Thank you Bloke for the link to "Skylark".

As I live just across the river form Vancover, WA, I am happy to hear of a new store in the area. I will check it out when there is something to check out.

CCC

Also check out the fabulous Brookmeyer arrangement!

1 Ton Tommy wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 4:29 pm FWIW Linda Ronstadt hired Nelson Riddle to produce a series of American Songbook pieces for her trio of albums in the mid eighties. Skylark is one of my favorites on that effort. She does it very well.

I assume from the discussion that the store is in Vancouver despite the Rose City name, which I've always associated with Portland. I'll visit the shop next time I'm through the area which might be this spring. How bout listing an address?

Address is listed on the website. I am working out of my home for the time being, but I hope to be in a storefront of some sort in the not too distant future. Because this is a home-based business, in order to comply with the rules of Vancouver, we are by appointment only at this time. Once we get a store front, that will change. Thanks very much!

I talked to the Gentleman today. The link in the above post gives you all of the info to communicate with him. His shop is in his home and setting and appointment with him would be best. I going to take him a tuba that needs cleaning. The shop I normally use has a long line to wait in. I hope to get in front of the line here.

CCC

bort2.0 wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 2:10 pm

jtuba wrote: Tue Feb 03, 2026 8:19 am Have you ever seen the Twoba made from a MW 2250 for Roland? Looks like he wanted the same from.his new maker

https://www.lastrowmusic.com/twoba-a-hu ... -soloists/

Definitely had not seen that before, thanks for sharing! I don't particularly like it, but I do respect the engineering involved in designing this. I think I'm just a purist, and prefer using the "normal thing" for everything. Because as soon as the new thing comes out, the performance has the potential to become too much about the new thing.

Or, maybe I just don't like tuba solos.

Relevant to the original post, perhaps it's not the most appropriate category-level photo for "F tuba".

Seems to me the concert instrument of choice if moving around on stage and having eye contact with the director/audience is paramount was invented a 125 years ago or so…the sousaphone. Maybe Roland should check that out. TWOBA - looks stupid - name sounds stupid and no way that thing plays better than a good sousaphone which is a lot less money, way easier to hold/play and not so fragile.

I have previously been told by a director that the sousaphone is too "unserious." I think my response to that was, well, you could do a lot worse.

@tofu I think you have accurately captured My concerns with this instrument. As I said, I think as soon as this thing comes out, it becomes a show of, what is this thing.

bort2.0 wrote: Fri Feb 06, 2026 6:28 pm I have previously been told by a director that the sousaphone is too "unserious." I think my response to that was, well, you could do a lot worse.

@tofu I think you have accurately captured My concerns with this instrument. As I said, I think as soon as this thing comes out, it becomes a show of, what is this thing.

Never mind the Sousa band.
I don't know who this director is, but he's a poot.
Let me guess: he's in Minneapolis.

Sierman tubas were briefly discussed a couple years ago. Trying to link here.

arpthark wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:48 am
Directing some discourse away from a for sale ad so as to not muck it up, the offerings from Sierman look interesting.

tubatodd wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:19 am
http://www.siermanmusic.com/about.html

Text from the site:

Seventeen years ago, worked in Dalian brasswind manufactory and learned how to make rotary valve brass-instruments and master taught how to enjoy this job into producing and sound in the life.

after 10 years Craftsmanship and Experience, built my own factory –SIERMAN in LangFang, why to call ‘’Sierman’’- in the Chinese semantic means-it’s a Fantastic Extension…. we worked closer with musician and listen what they need, and more concentrated in sound’s difference and craftsmanship..

It’s not easy to insist quality as we are really young, But, When we see customers satisfied smile, we insist on quality is worth. we will keep our passion to research and development new instrument in the world and working closer with musician and listen to customer!!

Interesting! They make a Hirsbrunner HB 2P clone with the signature looped leadpipe. Haven't seen that before

http://www.siermanmusic.com/info_15_43.html

They also have an obligatory York copy (?) and a MW 3450 copy (?) among others

A PT6 copy???????
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=239955605868398&set=pb.100095618799308.-2207520000&type=3

Roland playing a Sierman
https://www.facebook.com/100095618799308/videos/1097472715501958

MiBrassFS wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:59 am Interesting. Dalian was the original Chinese maker for Custom and WWBW. Well done, @tubatodd!

The current line-up is pretty interesting. See here: http://www.siermanmusic.com/info_15.html

For CCs, the "Skylark" seems to be an HP-2P clone. The "Sonata" is a Yorkalike. The "Infinity" is the 3450 copy.

F tuba line seems to have the "Mars" (MR-P F copy), the "Hippo" (what a fantastic name for a MW 2250 copy), the "Arthur" (JBL Classics copy), the Palatine (PT-16? large 6v F tuba), and the "Primo" (seems to be a PT-10 copy).

There is also a BBb tuba "Tanker" which seems to be a Rudi Meinl Bayreuth copy. I'm not seeing the PT-6 copy listed anywhere on their product line.

Edit to add, if they can get their rotary valves and linkage nice and silent and similar in quality to B&S AND if the PT-6 (rotor) clone ends up being as nice as the old "Wisemann" PT-6P (piston) clone, that could get some traction. I've been idly looking for a nice PT-6 for sale the past couple years and they really don't appear that often.

I'm not in the market, but I've seen a few videos of Sierman brass floating around. They are legit and look to copy good solid tuba models. It doesn't bother me much when a good, yet no-longer-made original design/model is copied by another maker. Particularly if well made. At least a couple tubas are copies of great, defunct models.
If I were interested in any Sierman tuba, it would probably be a toss up between the Nirschl 4/4 CC and HB-2P copies

bloke wrote: Fri Feb 06, 2026 9:04 pm Never mind the Sousa band.
I don't know who this director is, but he's a poot.
Let me guess: he's in Minneapolis.

I forget, it was either in NY or MD. But it wasn't out here. I think the concern was that the back row would start looking kind of goofy with a sousaphone, one tuba pointing to the right, and another tuba pointing to the left.

To which my response would be, take the tubas away and we still look kind of goofy.

The only way to tell is to test. I took my Marzan BBb slant rotor over to the gentleman for a beauty treatment. Time will tell.

CCC