I think I’ve seen a scant few 22” Holton bells. I’d imagine they either made a mistake and made some way too big, had a request, or some other silly reason.

This tuba was (is) (has been?) for sale on the other forum for a while. Last I saw, he wanted $8,000. Lack of price in FB is weird, could just be overlooked.

I’ve been eyeing that silver 4260 they’ve got there… Don’t need it, but man, I’m sure that thing is stellar…

I don't want to sound like I'm telling you that you're wrong, but I do wonder:

I've played several "show demo" tubas that were also not good players. I wonder if something was/is wrong with those particular instruments you didn't like? Maybe hastily assembled, out of alignment, or some other thing ...

If you’re someone like me who constantly has little things done to your horns, raw brass will be your friend. It doesn’t scar nearly as bad as silver or lacquer after dent and solder work.

Lacquer looks bad after repair work, regardless of the damage type, and a nice patina really looks good, even ...

Pay a visit to Martin. That’s the best way.

Love the set in my 2165.

Wanted to love a set in my 2141, but they didn’t fit right, so I sold them. See that saga in my 2141 thread.

You might consider contacting the Berliner tuba for this one!

MSRP on the bell is $3995.

Remember when I said I probably wouldn't get a 6450 bell to complete this tuba's transformation into a 6450?

Well... :laugh:

I ordered one. Expensive, but as I thought it over, if I'm doing this, I want to take it all the way.

90-120 day estimated delivery (like with everything else).

Even with ...

Cleaning off the shelf. They are all in excellent condition. G&W had some repairs done. Prices include shipping in US. Located near Chicago, IL.

Tindalls are all silver. Bought them recently, mostly just to try out. Not for me, or any of my tubas. They're very well made and comfortable to play on ...

Try a PT or RT piece - Their “standard shank” size is .530. See if that makes a difference. It sure did for some of my tubas.

American is probably .525, and Euro is probably .540

Neat. That will solve pretty much everyone’s biggest problem with the BMB lineup.

It sure doesn’t look like there is much room for that tuning slide to begin with. They probably boxed themselves into a corner so they HAD to use the dependent valves. I can’t imagine that was Dick’s first choice ...

I have one of those marked Pan American. Needs a valve job, but was way cheaper than that one. I really need to get a new valve section for that thing…

I had a 3302 for quite a long time. I recall using a PT-48 with it, if you want to stick to the PT/RT line.

What a great story, and a beautiful instrument. I love when good people find good instruments. Congrats!

For those unaware, CHI Brass is a Chicago-based mouthpiece company who primarily sells modernized mouthpieces based upon Helleberg designs popularized and modified by Arnold Jacobs and Floyd Cooley. Recently, CHI has created some new mouthpieces for certain individuals (artist models), and also ...

They didn’t make many of them. I’d never SEEN a Kanstul tuba in person until a 90 CC popped up locally years ago.

I’ve heard that they’re the best Eb since sliced bread, and I’ve also heard that they’re not worth the brass they’re made from.

I’m sure there are good ones that exist. I’m also sure ...

It’s right near me. And yeah, it’s been there what seems like forever.

It’s priced too high, especially for what it is. Kanstul didn’t make a whole lot of them, and you really roll the dice on how it plays.

If someone is really interested in it, I’d be happy to drive over there and try it out ...

Sound wise- I like what the original bell offers. All this stuff is meant to take all the bad playing qualities of the 2165 out, and put the Baer’s good playing qualities in.

I like to say I’m taking all the Warren Deck out of this tuba.

Well... Time to update this thread right after I updated my 2141 thread.

As of today, I believe I have ALL necessary parts to make this final conversion to the 6450 setup (except the Fafner bell). Will I ever get a Fafner bell? IDK. Probably not anytime soon.

Everything needed:

6450 main slide w ...